Wednesday, January 6, 2016

How to Defrost a Samsung Ice Maker

[UPDATE 8-29-16]: The solution, sent out to all Samsung service Techs in a bulletin, is in the new post on this subject here.

If you have a Samsung refrigerator with the SZAB001TA1 ice maker, you have a problem.

RF263BEAEWWWe recently purchased a French door refrigerator by Samsung (RF263BEAEWW) from Best Buy (heavily discounted as scratch and dent, $1,200 instead of $2,300… plus all the extra money for the extended warranty, etc.).  As usual, I researched this major purchase for weeks, and drove around to just about every major appliance store and outlet in Denver to see what I could find on scratch-and-dent-deep-discount.

While this fridge was the best rated fridge available (currently there seems to be a dearth of decent refrigerators on the market), it’s still had it’s issues, especially in regard to the compressor being astoundingly loud for a new refrigerator.  The biggest problem we’ve encountered so far is that it started making a “churning” or “chugging” noise and I quickly realized it was the fill pump for the ice maker.  The defrost was not working correctly and an ice dam was blocking the fill flow, thus the pump just kept trying to pump in water without ever quitting.  Not only was the noise extremely annoying, but it was going to destroy the pump if left to continue.

Samsung Ice MakerEvidently the ice makers in these units are HORRIBLE, and the circuit board that controls them is also awful (and fails if you look at it wrong).

Calling Best Buy gets you nowhere, as they will only direct you to the manufacturer if the appliance is still under manufacturer’s warranty.  Trying to get someone to come check out an appliance via Samsung will make you feel like you live in cold war Russia (trying to talk to the right person, trying to get someone to come to your house, getting scheduled for a visit more than a month out, etc.).

Rather than wait for someone to come fix it while putting up with the awful noise and having the pump fail completely while we waited, I ended up doing it myself, and that started with figuring out how to defrost the ice maker without having to turn off the fridge (and thus empty all the contents).

Here are the steps:

  1. On the front panel display, press the Energy Saver and Refrigerator buttons at the same time for 8 seconds.  The display will switch to the Test Mode and the display (all buttons, etc.) will go dark.
  2. Press any button within 15 seconds after the display goes dark to scroll through the Test Modes as follows:
    • Manual operation 1 (FF)
    • Manual operation 2 (0F-r)
    • Manual defrost of fresh food compartments (rd)
    • Manual defrost of fresh food and freezer compartments (fd)
    • Cancel (display goes completely dark)

“fd” is the one you want.  The defrost mode will beep while in effect (pretty annoying) and will shut off after five minutes (I had to do it quite a few times to thaw everything out).

Once the majority of the stuck-to-the-unit ice was thawed, I used a screw driver to carefully dislodge all the ice, then completed melted any chunks I couldn’t remove by hand with a hair dryer.  Finally I blew out the ice maker with an air compressor to remove any remaining droplets/moisture so it wouldn’t build up ice crystals once the unit was back on.

I’m not happy about this issue, and I really hope it doesn’t continue to happen, as returning a refrigerator is going to be a major pain (all the doors and drawers had to be removed to fit through the front door and kitchen door, not to mention the hassle of scheduling the process and storing food in the interim).

UPDATE 1-11-16: The ice maker is more of a problem than I had originally anticipated –more specifically, the way the ice maker is unable to defrost/thaw in an efficient manner).  There is a fairly permanent puddle in the bottom of the refrigerator, and often there is so much water it pours out of the front and onto the floor (and also into the bottom freezer, creating giant chunks of ice and icicles).  In fact, the water coming from the ice maker has ruined our floor (woke up one morning with a giant puddle on the floor that warped the floating cork, and I’m sure there is now mold under the flooring).

Here are some photos of the madness:

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UPDATE 1-17-16: The Samsung Ice Maker has failed again.  The genius who designed it decided that the defrost cycle, which happens on a regular basis, should drain directly into… the bottom of the ice maker housing.  Thus, this next time our ice maker failed (again, pouring water all over the floor and further damaging the cork flooring), the ice tray also froze completely shut, meaning I couldn’t get the ice maker drawer out without first thawing the ice maker (which meant the thawing ice had nowhere to go except all over the place).  There was nearly a full 1/2” solid sheet of ice holding the ice drawer to the bottom of the ice maker housing.  I spent around 2 hours fixing the problem tonight, and I have a feeling this is only going to get worse.  I really don’t want this refrigerator anymore.

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Jerry M said...

THE FIX: Extend the white tube at the top of the ice maker (roof) by 1/2 inch and extend upward the squarish box that the tube drains into by 1/2 inch with a wrap or two of plastic tape (this controls the water flow without splashing to other parts of the ice maker.) Also move the refrigerator three inches from the back wall for better ventilation. I had the same problems described here and other sites until I fixed it by what is prescribed above. I have had NO problems since for many months!! I check the ice maker every month and find NO ICE buildup. It is now again the refrigerator we purchased five years ago.

Jerry M said...

THE FIX: Extend the white tube at the top of the ice maker (roof) by 1/2 inch and extend upward the squarish box that the tube drains into by 1/2 inch with a wrap or two of plastic tape (this controls the water flow without splashing to other parts of the ice maker.) Also move the refrigerator three inches from the back wall for better ventilation. I had the same problems described here and other sites until I fixed it by what is prescribed above. I have had NO problems since for many months!! I check the ice maker every month and find NO ICE buildup. It is now again the refrigerator we purchased five years ago.

Jerry M said...

When you defrost manually, eg. with a hair dryer, unplug the refrigerator for 20 minutes to stop the cooling and freezing while manually defrost. Otherwise, it will be an uphill battle.

Built Right said...

Where to begin.... What a piece of shit! Ever seen the youtube video of the guy who fills the fridge with tannerite and then shoots it from a distance. I so want to do that to this POS! I would get so much more satifaction out of doing this! Never ever buying samsung appliances again!

Unknown said...

Can't get mine to go to force defrost

Dale R said...

Hi Jerry M., any chance you could post some pictures of the changes you made? I'm trying to understand how you used plastic tape to extend the white tube. Did you use the tape to attach another piece of tubing? Or is the tape itself the tubing? Did you use electrical tape or what "plastic tape" did you use? Thanks!

Anonymous said...

It is a garbage refrigerator from a garbage company. Because of much experience with this p.o.s. I have boycotted anything Samsung makes.

Unknown said...

I appreciate finding this site as I had been trying all sorts of codes to make the "fd" happen. Your site was the first one that I found that had the codes to work for my fridge.
I have RR24FSEDBSR and thank you for this button code: press Energy Star and Fridge at the same time for 8-12 seconds. The screen will go dark and then press any button and keep pressing that button till "fd" option comes up (I think it was the 4th option for me). The beeping continued for the entire 20 mins on my fridge.
First time doing this as I recently bought a house with this fridge. Of course I had no idea the issues this fridge was known for. Oh well. It works and the fridge is no longer making that bad noise.

Jay said...

I have been having to do the forced defrost every few weeks to keep it working. Now, no longer how long I hold the freezer and light buttons at the same time, it never goes into the test mode that is needed to select the fd option. Cutting the power to refrigerator for a time to "reboot" doesn't seem to make a difference. Has anyone else run into this problem?

Unknown said...

Thank you for your post. I donated the monetary equivalent of a six-pack. We now have ice!

The Invisible said...

Thanks so much! Glad you've got ice, and glad I've got beer! [smile] Thanks again for your generosity.

Danielle said...

I having the same issue i did the steps like you suggested and after 5 minutes it still hasnt stopped beeping

Clark G said...

My refrigerator has been beeping for 30 minutes now. When does it stop?

fjm said...

Thanks for the information! On my refrigerator (June 2016 manufacture), the button sequence to get into the maintenance menu is Freezer + Light. After running one forced defrost, the bin was still stuck so I used the trick of shoving a vacuum cleaner crevice tool into the ice chute from outside (set it for cubed and press the lever to open the door, then wait until it tries to dispense so the flap on the chute opens) and pumped hot air in with a hair dryer. It took about 20 minutes to melt enough ice to free the bin. Once the bin was out, a few more minutes with the hair dryer and a wooden spoon and the caked-on ice at the point where the ice ejects from the maker into the bin fell apart and could be removed. After drying everything and replacing the bin, it started making ice again. I think it's advisable to check every week or two and remove any ice or frost on the mechanism.

Anonymous said...

The best explanation I got from a salesman about the general problems with any Samsung appliances (fridge, dishwasher, clothes washer and clothes dryer) was the following.
"Samsung sure they are great....just don't add water"

Anfick22 said...
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Anonymous said...

Hi all,
I tried to leave a comment but I don’t see it, either way…
Recap: I lowered my freezer temperature to 0(zero), it works best if you don’t have your temperature set too cold. I also did not defrost because I was personally sick of doing that. I pressed the reset button on the ice maker after lowering the temperature. Within 24 hours it was making ice again, and still going strong so far. I hope this helps someone. Peace!

Nathan W said...

Supco SH 502 drainage heater installed at top of unit found solution on YouTube! Took hour been 2 years ice free.

Linda Oppenheimer said...

I purchased the Samsung everyone spoke about having icemaker issues. I purchased it from HomeDepot. Day 3 icemaker door frozen shut. Called Samsung, repairman came out. defrosted- replaced entire icemaker. Said to empty it every other day. That was Friday, Sunday icemaker frozen shut. Called Samsung, repairman came out, looked at it, defrosted it and told me he would consider the item defective, Samsung would contact me for replacement.
samsung called and they do not have an agreement with homedepot so I would have to cut the plug off send a photo and they would send me a check for the full amount I paid.
I explained that I needed to use the refrigerator until I get a new one. The rep agreed I could keep the plug on and would send me a replacement check. I received the check and since it was ONLY the ice maker I decided to keep the refrigerator and purchased a countertop icemaker. So I have had the refrigerator for about 4 yrs with a frozen icemaker.
If anyone has found a solution let me know perhaps I can try one more time to fix the thing.
Thanks all.


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